come in with asylum, because maybe we don't fit the criteria." they said "since that may be the case, we are willing to cross in illegally." we have had that question answered by people in the caravan. >> jessica: to the best my understanding, two things -- one, seeking asylum as a legal procedure. we recognize that some people come here. customs and border patrol. a lot of them are seeking it in mexico, and some want to carry on and come to united states. border patrol apprehends, i believe, 851 people at various ports of entry every single day. they are equipped to do this. the thousands and thousands of troops that are being sent down there, which chuck was talking about, is nothing but a political stunt. it doesn't answer the question of -- >> harris: secretary mattis said this isn't a stud. he doesn't apply for a stunt. let me ask you this -- the way that jessica is laying it out is possible that many of these people will try to go to a port of entry.