>> have you heard the report? my the first one telling you this? >> yes. >> i'm sorry to be doing that. can you tell me what your reaction is? >> no. >> he is her brother. >> i know he is. i don't have anything to say. >> martha: what do you make of that? >> jackie bulger, his younger brother, played a heavy price for being his younger sibling e went to prison for a while about four visiting a florida bank where whitey had a safe deposit box. it is like "the godfather," this is the life we chose, right? this is the life that bulgers chose. the trial, martha, was amazing, back in 2013. at one point, one of the victims, his girlfriend, catherine, who trace was referring to, she was a divorce.