organized and figure out their march which would ultimately take them to méxico city. i want to take 2 seconds to bring in lucina who is our mexican city producer, lucina what are they saying to the group? >> he's calling for hunger strike, to protest about the people in guatemala that can't go through and have been clashing with the police. griff: that's what you're hearing, that, of course, being smaller people trying to get to guatemalan border there where one reported to be dead, news to them, yesterday we spoke to one of the individuals here in the caravan that speaks english, his name is ronald, he believes this group already is too big, take a listen. >> too many people now, so when in the beginning there were 2,500, now more than 8,000 people. now we have to follow some rules, you know, because if we don't keep following the rules, so this -- this caravan they