and they enter the country illegally in smaller groups, that's all cartel controlled. once they cross the border illegally and we take them into the custody then the asylum process kicks off. if they come as mass horde theoretically we can stop them from crossing the border, but once they disperse and cartels get hands on them and force them to cross in smaller groups and becomes much more difficult. heather: i want to run this by you make sure i'm correct, 1700 of those migrants have applied for refugee status, thousands of those turned that down because they're hoping for asylum. >> well, of course, when you look at this and what méxico has offered it's clear that these people are not fleeing violence in their own country. if they were they would seek refuge in a country that would offer to them and méxico has already offered that. they're bent on the united