have to decide what our values are. and we can't pretend that those values don't apply now just because we weren't involved in the apparent killing. what we have got to do is send a clear message to the world and to ourselves what's important to our children. what's important, what are our values. so we need to take a living room view of that i think that being firm is going to be key because it's not just the saudis who are watching. it's the whole world. >> neil: you talk about obviously what's keeping that world together is the royal family. certainly amongst the royal family until the counsel crown e came along and imprisoned in a hotel fellow relatives and princes and the like that. should have been the tipping point as he was extracting billions from them that he wasn't everything that he appeared. why do we have to stay loyal to someone like that? >> well, it's one of these decisions you can on one hand saynot our business to go into other country and change their form of government. on the other hand it's not our business to necessarily