uneasy partnership with saudi arabia. she served counsel of foreign regions an relations and scientists reducing threats humanity. thank you so much. it's nice to meet you. >> thanks, shep. >> shepard: we are in precarious. i don't know if this is tipping point. i would be interesting at having your inputs at it. deadlines, a lot of information. the saudis don't want msnbc. crow -- wantmbs. the united states just wants things to calm down. >> it's all being played out for all of to us watch. the administration is clearly trying to give the saudis some time to figure their way out of this. it's really unclear how that is possible. we have got a lot of eggs in the saudi basket right now. saudis have blood on their hands at the highest levels.