border!" >> harris: reporting that unmarked data in 80% rise in ill crossings since the trump administration ended the zero tolerance border policy. brian, what is happening? >> brian: 4,000 people heading to your southern border, this is the kind of thing when you call home you have somebody answer and you say, did you see 4,000 people heading for the southern border? that is an army amassing. that's not how we should view this, but i get why this is such an important issue to people whom i will resonate in the midterms, what do we do about this? and what we do? we do not know what to do. nobody has an answer. >> harris: we do not see this many people come across the border, but they are all gathered in this caravan, but is the answer to send the military down and shut it down? >> lisa: what president trump is trying to put leverage on mexico and put pressure on mexico to stop the caravan before it becomes our problem.