much an effect as the white house thinks they do. >>chris: president trump says he gets substantially more support from african-americans the most republicans have gotten over the years. but the numbers don't back him up. let's take a look in 2012, mitt romney got six percent of the black vote. in 2016, mr. trump got eight percent in a recent poll, 12 percent of african americans approve of the job he's doing while 85 percent disapprove. your thoughts on kanye's visit to the oval office and is there any political benefit? >> i think there's modest political benefit. look, the african-american votf democrat democratic party has been monolithic for years. a republican can only hope to cut into that a little bit. culturally, i think the black vote is so oriented toward the democrats. this bizarre event and that's what it was. might help a little but only a little as julie suggests.