personal joke between two people. i don't have to describe any of this." but when you are in a work contest and you're talking about things like removing the president via the 25th amendment, or secretly either wearing a wire or having someone else wearing a wire, that is not necessarily funny. you are in a work setting. maybe the president is off-loading some of that heavy lifting to congress. they can have those tough questions. >> harris: that's a possibility. i do think that it's interesting, as steve points out, that now the leverage is gone for rosenstein. he is in a position of capitulation, really. and now he's on air force one. you talk about what you would say front of your boss and we wouldn't say. you've heard all sorts of things. you brought up that it's not funny because it's been suggested that perhaps it was a joke, and i don't know how you joke about that. that is the same sort of narrative that we have between strzok and page. get rid of the president before he's in the white house. is it a question of bias? i am certain that would come up,