that, as a man, it is his benefit to say, let's discover the truth. >> do you believe he was given a fair chance in his confirmation? >> a fair chance? this man is sitting amongai friends of his. >> the public as the people who should me know might be making decisions about what they need, not the [bleep] little white man who don't give a [bleep] about what we want. there are allegations against him that quite likely are true. i believe they are true but it hasn't been proven one way or the other. >> this is a job interview, there is no presumptive innocence and a job interview. >> in your mind, judge kavanaugh failed that? >> absolutely, he failed the judge know my job interview. >> this is a desperate grab by the old, white, male, rich patriarchy. >> in my view, judge kavanaugh made it pretty clear that he does not have the judicial temperament. he believes the supreme court is just one more political football. atat is not what the supreme court is about. i think, in that hearing, judge kavanaugh disqualified himself. >> sean: no presumption of innocence. this confirms everything you need to know.