be a fundamental shift now in america. we might not get it back. maybe liberals are happy with this particular victory. but maybe next time it will be somebody on their side of the aisle. maybe someone in their family. maybe one of their loved ones. are we going to become a country of guilty until proven innocent? that's a pretty scary and horrible place. no presumption of innocence. with reaction fox news contributor radio host -- sara carter, former chairman of the house oversight committee jason chavis. tammy, what's amazing about you -- and i have known you many years. used to be the president of a national organization for women. >> yeah. >> sean: you have been the single most, one of the most outspoken people on this. passionate. >> look, i spent most of my adult life fighting on these