fair hearing. we have a statement written by a lawyer in the case of mark judge, where he was not tied back to cross-examination, not subject to actually having to talk to a physical person and bi investigated, ask questions. and the attacking of dr. ford the cowardice by the republican members of the judiciary committee, to not even be able to ask her a question and divert that to a prosecutor, that was -- e >> laura: do you think that she was treated disrespectfully today? is that what you are saying? >> i do, by the fact that they refused to ask her a question. >> laura: what? are you kidding me? it was kid gloves plus velvet gloves -- >> she had to ask senator grassley, "may i address you, sir" -- >> laura: that is her demeanor. >> they didn't want to address her directly. >> laura: that is their prerogative. five days ago it was "these white men are going to be questioning this poor victim." then they said, we will bring in woman who is an expert. i particularly did not think it