emotional. now he has done that now, and wait a second. hold on. he has to dial it back and be a judge again. which one is it? >> the standard model is that you absorb whatever the committee throws at you and you are deferential at all times. that can work. in a situation like this, it wasn't working so we turned the tables. i think it was the right thing to do and i think it was heartfelt. you could tell from the emotion that it doesn't just come out of nowhere. i don't know that -- it depends to me on how the senators react to him. they are polite and courteous as senator klobuchar was, seems to me that someone -- if we get a spartacus moment from senator booker, may be more of this and would appropriate. i think we had a very different place than we were at the end of the morning. >> bret: references to the first hearing in which he said it was his "i am spartacus" moment. he said when he delivered coffee, it was his "i am