on the court and we know he is eminently qualified and the right guy for the job. i hope it happens sooner rather than later. >> what happens in the senate, you know these guys may be too well >> i think we will hear both sides, but i think the tactics that we are talking about are really distasteful to both sides. when we really look at this, i got a readout that is coming from some of the activists and they are telling them how to act and what to wear. quite frankly coaching them on what to say and these are people that literally do not have a stake in this. they are organized by certain groups to come out and create chaos. what we need are real hearings and let judge kavanaugh set up for it. >> sean: let me ask you both about rod rosenstein. the president commented about that today and said he has been speaking with rod. you both know him. he says he didn't do it and mccabe is one of the ones obviously, his notes were leaked and he's known to live.