really hard time caring about people who are not people and whether or not they are. i spent approximately 0% of my life thinking about puppet. i do think about golf a lot but not in a way. >> martha: i grew up on "sesame street," too. and i take of the characters as puppets. they are puppets after all, one of them lives in a garbage can. so -- >> and its new york, the rent is very high in new york so they needed to split the money so that's why they are roommates. >> i always thought they were the odd couple, like the puppet version of the odd couple. >> i have yet to meet an adult man without a roommate in the city. >> exactly. always good to see you, thank you very much.