victim or that person is a liar. you don't have any mid point. if you finish mid point, the jury tends to rule against the defendant. so the republicans will be in a tough position. they'll either have to address this or not. >> i'm not quite as gloomy as my colleague and friend professor turley. i think a tie can still go to judge kavanaugh. at the end of the clarence thomas, anita hill hearing it was a tie even though senator specter rattled her she didn't change her allegations. the senate judiciary committee voted no preference. they voted to send the nomination to the floor. which is why i think it will be determined by the four corker, flake, collins and murcowski, only senator flake actually sits on the committee. >> sandra: meanwhile -- >> there are no rules here. >> sandra: that's why there are so many question marks as to what will happen. do you think she will accept