the late senator arlin specter. i don't think that can happen today in the #metoo era. she can't be treated as aggressively as senator specer treated professor hill. it is an entirely different era. she may well be a victim, a liar, a dupe. here is my questions. what happens at 5:00 monday afternoon it's a draw? there are no rules. this is not a court of law where she has to prove her case by more evidence or he has to disprove her case by more evidence. it is a question of impression. who more likely than not was the truth teller? >> sandra: what's the answer to that? >> that will be determined by four people. senators flake, corker, collins and murcowski. the four republicans who may be looking for a reason not to vote for him, who may be