katelyn, good to see you. >> you too. >> shepard: i know there is a lot of discussion going on, especially among republicans on the hill about how to proceed. what do we know about those discussions? >> right now, chairman grassley as you said has put out a statement saying this woman should be given an opportunity to be heard for her allegations. he hasn't played his hand about whether or not there is going to be any kind of public hearing flushing this out. he said he is trying to set up a call. democrats said they don't want this to be a staff call. so, it seems like what happens at the judiciary committee we just don't know yet. although the vote is still scheduled for thursday. >> shepard: it looks perilous because quoting from jeff flake now. jeff flake of tennessee, in light of the allegations -- i'm sorry of arizona. jeff flake said and i quote if they push forward without any attempt with hearing what she has to say, i'm not comfortable with voting yes. we need to hear from her. i don't think i'm alone in. this he is not. all the democrats are with him on that. there is also this matter of think of it this way: this