own. after all, for all intents and purposes the icc is already dead to us. jillian: the icc was created in 2002 but the united states never joined or ratified it. how will this end. joining us is morgan atretgeus. weiss is a big deal than people realize? >> theoretically the administration did not challenge it. of the icc were to go against individual members of the military or diplomats, most likely members of the military, for war crimes, if that member of the service was vacationing with their family and a country that is party to the icc we are not then theoretically they could be detained. there are real-world consequences to what the icc is doing. it is not something where we are