ratner, to barack obama, happening under trump. >> growth in manufacturing under trump is product of booming economy, product of developing markets overseas, wages raising, natural to happen. started under obama. >> laura: then why didn't he -- >> don't forget, the jobs obama was creating, 20,000 more per month than under the trump administration last two years of the obama administration, not like this just happened. >> laura: there were jobs created, this goes back to the resistance, do you agree with what victor davis hanson was say something >> yeah, victor is right, politics about two commodities, connections and money and donald trump is a threat to both of those things, doesn't give a rat's caboose and doesn't need your money tochlt christian's point, too, i love debate withing chris, rarely knows numbers and doesn't know the numbers now either.