everybody knows these nominations are going through and this is all for show. >> laura: i think it's also a chance to educate the american public on how important the court is. i think if you pointed out on my radio show how this demonstrates that to the left, the court is just another political instrument. >> that's absolutely right. clearly, they don't have the votes to stop kavanaugh and they don't have the arguments to do it either. i think what he speaking about is a vision of the court that the american people respect and understand. judges that apply the law as written and don't advance narrow ideological agendas. and that's contrary to what some of these democrats want. if they weren't obstructing they could talk about the key political issues. >> laura: so it's abortion, abortion, abortion. gun restriction, gun restriction. there was a moment when ben sasse who has been resisting trump for most of the trump presidency, but he in many ways i think today was the republican stand out in this committee.