for private nonprofit. >> so you look at the numbers and you think about what people are choosing as majors, you know, i majored in philosophy, ask me how many times ii talk about critic of pure reason on daily basis. jillian: on the other side i majored in communication i use that a lot. i had journalism classes, tv production classes, things that helped benefit my career so that argument can go both ways. >> what's a good point when you're talking to your kids about saving and as they are getting older, you want to talk to them about how you are saving and they are going to save for ledge, i think the average teen right now has about $5,000 put away for college, but also things that are specifically to their interest, so you knew you wanted to go into communications, i didn't think that i was going to become a philosophy professor but having the conversation with my parents probably would have made all the difference. >> right, right. so let's take a lock here --