hillary clinton. does this make it more likely that there is a viable challenger to president trump in 2020? >> well come i thought he was a better challenge her. is the evidence not a parrot? he would agree hillary clinton was a horrible candidate. she decided not to go to wisconsin. it was on this country mrs. clinton. it would've been a more viable candidate. what i'm saying is this is another nod. you will not see any wiggle room here. the basement to the far left. leland: i've got to get you to 15 seconds on this. a more progressive 2020 nominee? >> if you trust the base during the primaries, maybe the basal trust a little bit more and show up for you during the general election. trade you gentlemen thank you unappreciated. your understanding as we are cut a little bit short as we remember the life of john