crumbs? >> juan, do you like nancy pelosi? >> juan: like or not like is not the issue, she's an effective leader in terms of legislation and a huge fundraiser for the democrats. >> is she a liability? >> that's an interesting point, juan. a lot of the democrats saying i won't vote for nancy pelosi if she becomes speaker of the house -- if she runs for speaker, if we take the house, are taking her money. she is a great fundraiser. they disavow but they're not disavowing the money she's pouring into the coughs of their campaign -- coffers of their campaign. they should disavow the campaign money. >> juan: i don't know if they're taking the money. >> they are. >> juan: the incumbents are. the people who will vote against pelosi in the democratic caucus. i doubt they will vote against pelosi on who the speaker should be. >> she is a liability. you admitted, i had asked if you she was a liability, you said