they are on the front lines defending against russia's onslaught of cyber and military attacks going back to 2014. >> jon: the trump administration is taking a much stuff understand with regard to ukraine than its predecessors authorizing military hardware than soft goods and so forth for combatants. >> absolutely. and, you know, the trump administration has sent anti-tank weapons and authorized $200 million in security assistance for ukraine. i think there is significant work we can do together economically. our trade balance is strong. and, again, i think ukraine is a very powerful ally for us in the region and also with our european allies. >> jon: vladimir putin, as you mentioned, wants to put the soviet union back together. right? >> well, vladimir putin has been known to say that the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century was the collapse of the soviet union. so remember he was a kgb