panel. tom dupree and harmeet dhillon. that there is "no question" the president has committed a federal crime. tom. >> i don't believe what lanny is saying is exactly accurate to say the least. for one thing, all that happened was the president's former lawyer entered a plea bargain in which he made allegations and admissions concerning his conduct. that does not automatically mean that the president is guilty. in fact, if the president someday were called upon to defend himself in a court of law, i think you would have very strong defenses to this very charge. the other point of course is of the ultimate audience is the congress. if we are talking possible impeachment, maybe this has relevance. as far as whether the president could be charged with a federal crime, bob mueller has been absolutely clear he's going to follow and respected department of justice guidelines which says you cannot and shall not indict a sitting president. >> shannon: lanny davis says commodity can be indicted, it's never been decided. we have to guidance documents from the justice department in 1973 and 2000.