minutes and people thought they only need 15 more minutes? what does that mean? >> nobody can quite figure that one out. i will say this. jury sent a question to the judge asking him to define reasonable doubt, that's music to the ears of defense attorneys because, in this particular case, they mt.ed a recalled defense. they didn't put on a case in ernest. they tried through cross-examination to create reasonable doubt. they behalf have suck received to some extent. ainsley: what is the definition of that? >> there recall is no legal standard. we leave it to the discretion and determination entirely of the jury. it's up to them. it's not likely he committed a crime or probably or maybe. it's got to be beyond a reasonable doubt. that doubt has to be reasonable. brian: 18 counts, right? could they be debating? could you be guilty on nine counts and not guilty on three counts. >> sure.