numbers, rapper logic wearing the shirt f the wall. what you see right there is the reuniting of families that were separated, children separated from their immigrant parents by a wall inside radio city music hall. ainsley: their t-shirts say we are all human beings. steve: what's interesting about the vmas i was reading in one of the trade publications in the last three years they have lost 50% of their audience and last year's viewership was worse year on word. you have to won determine do people get sick of the politics or because people have a lot of other stuff to do? ainsley: we don't want to hear the politics or we are old and don't listen anymore. brian: how many people watching music videos anymore, period? mtv doesn't even roll music videos anymore. vh 1 i can't find it on my dial. steve: they listen to a lot of songs on their devices which is good.