probe quickly wrapping up. the idea that mr. trump would mcgahn to openly speak to the special counsel struck them as odd. the pair became concerned that trump might be setting mr mr. mcgahn up to take the blame for any illegal acts of obstruction. instead of letting that happen, they came up with their own plan to cooperate as much as possible. the claims that there was apprehension about mcgahn's cooperation with mueller. john dowd told fox news that it never happened and that to his knowledge, there was quote no basis for such apprehensions. simply arthel he called those claims, those allegations fiction. arthel: before you go, what more is the white house saying? >> well, the white house referred us to outside legal counsel for the president and mr. mcgahn's attorney when it comes to any specific questions related to the investigation, but they did provide us with a statement on the relationship between president trump and don mcgahn. this is from white house press