against training a 15 or 13-year-old how to use a firearm. certainly no prohibition against that, correct? >> none to my knowledge. >> so the judge in the case is susan bakka. a former san francisco public defender. she allowed to $20,000 signature bond. instayed of putting up cash or collateral. no money up front. the five will likely be released today. the father has a warrant out of georgia and will likely remain in jail. >> julie: shocking this judge somehow considered these suspects not to be a threat to society and they were allowed out ot bail. a side from that let's talk about the autopsy and identification of a little boy who died in their care. >> right, 3-year-old abdul gani.