we won't ask about your time with the cia. don't worry. we will ask about your time after the cia. there was a lot of reporting about 15 150 christians he's esd isis in a no doubt daring escape. these are some of the pictures and we know that you were one of the people behind this. give us these two contradictory ideas, that here's a man who helped hundreds of people escape, put your own life at risk, for no other reason that to try to save these peoples' lives and the accusation that you were some how behind a coups. >> i worked for freedom house. it's america's oldest private rights organization. after the agency, i was involved in a program that rescued 149 christiansings, it was put toger by a group of americans that wanted to helpers cuted