about it is, like, it's a plan nine from outer space then, these are going to be trumped space cadets and everything. but there is -- we are vulnerable too much weaker countries who, if they happen to detonate everything on the righr the middle of the country, would knock us back to the mid-19th century. that is what is at stake here. >> that's right. we don't realize that outer space, we are a sitting duck for a preemptive strike. you realize that we are the most vulnerable because we have over half of all the commercial operating satellites in orbit and even a small nation like north korea, a hydrogen bomb over kansas would be enough to wipe out nearly half of our telecommunications network and paralyze power stations across north america. and that's just one hydrogen bomb over kansas. >> mark: yeah, and it's a situation that's never really existed. i mean, we don't -- because it's happened so sort of imperceptibly, we don't realize