we are in a little bit of a fight with china right now, and it's down 28%. >> if you are looking at trade balances, and tit for tat, we are going to win that. >> we are back with our panel, and how does this end. >> great question, asked that question and i will say if people expect president trump will back off or look for an exit ramp, i don't think they've paid very close attention to him in these trade situations.