steve: he was at the career of hbo's hard knocks. he told this to the associated press. i will never kneel and i will always respect the flag. i'm not going to denigrate my flag and i'm going to stand for the national anthem. i'm fighting with all of my strength to make it a better country but i don't think that's the issue. because what is the top side? are you going to stand up? this is our country, man. we work hard to make it better and that's my attitude. that is the attitude of jim brown. he also says he respects players' rights to do what they feel is right but, when it comes to jim brown, the 82-year-old, you know, keep in mind since he retired from football he has been involved in social justice and change. he says he is always going to stand. abby: really powerful when a voice like that steps up and speaks. as you said, brian, he has been through a lot in this country. and taking a stand and saying it the way that he did, i think it speaks for some people in this country who feel the exact same way. brian: he knows the country