uh, well, you know, people have this-- i don't-- i never understood this theory of how people-- even, you know, when it comes to the police and warrants and things like this, i think the truth is the truth. if you're doing bad, if you're doing something bad, it doesn't matter how people find out about it. was it ever romantic? pamela: he's definitely an interesting person and there's definitely a romantic kind of connection 'cause it's a romantic struggle. it's a very-- you know, we have this closeness, and i think that, you know, he's not close to people like he is to me. that i-i can really, honest-- i have a real personal relationship with him. - is that a yes? - an imperfect person. ( chuckles ) well, i can't say. but he's, um, he's just a-- one of my favorite people. you're very much anti-porn, it seems. well, i wrote a book called "lust for love," which started out as "the sensual revolution." i believe the sexual revolution gave us a lot of great things, but also gave us a lot of really bad sex. i think that uncommitted sex is boring.