things where as americans now that we're on to them and other countries who may use these tactics, this is why if you see something on social media from the news perspective, step away from social media and go right to the source. go to trusted, vetted news source programs like yours, bill, and actually get your news there and make your decisions for yourself. don't allow what is targeting you on social media to make you think kind of double down on one point of view, be open minded. >> bill: i think the mentality of it, if we're talking about russia all the time, putin is winning that argument. you see it on all the networks all the time. that's precisely what a former kgb agent would want. last comment quick. you are a great guest. >> thanks for having me on. and the last thing i would say the russia would like nothing more than to make americans distrust our democracy through our election security and it's up to us as americans to not