an average person swipes their phone 2,000 times a day. that's wild. that is crazy. >> trish: have you ever -- can you go without your phone? >> i can't go for longer -- until this segment is over. i love my phone. we're best friends forever. i can talk to friends on my phone. i can be on twitter, watch teen mom ii on my phone. i can do all of these things that are better than a conversation. people say cat, get off your phone. i'll be like you should try to be more interesting. maybe i will. >> trish: i hear that. do you ever worry because you're spending so much time on your phone that you're not connecting as much face-to-face? you have that concern? >> yes. i'm a difficult person to have a face-to-face conversation with as mike knows. i'm like yeah, okay. cool. because my phone and i are so close that it's hard for me to get close to another person.