in virginia, ed gillespie has more republican turnout than ever in the history of the state and he loses by nine points. look at the total electorate, 12% of those voters in virginia had never voted in a gubernatorial election before. you need to try to find new voters because the democrats are doing it. >> katie: gubernatorial race is very different from the congressional race. congressional races are more specific on issues on the governorship. >> jesse: we are looking at the crowd started to gather in tampa for the big trump rally. what do you think he's going to stay tonight? he has given one of these every two to three weeks. is it going to renew material? the same old razzle-dazzle? >> charlie: i think there will be some new material. one of the appealing things about donald trump all along is that he's brought in new voters. people that haven't voted before ruth have been -- or who have been apathetic. you walk into a truck stop in the middle of the 2016 election