previous ones, and i kind of think the precedent is if you call for a shutdown and you threaten a shutdown and then as a shutdown, people say that's the person who wanted the shutdown. we have never had a shutdown when the president was of the same party and controlled both houses of congress. >> this president has the keenest political instincts of any president in modern time. he knows what he's doing. he's pulling democrats to the table. he will win at the end of this. >> sandra: i will finish with this from the president. he tweeted out we must have border security, get rid of chain lottery. release century cities. protect ice and law-enforcement and of course keep building, but much faster the wall. great to have to be on the program tonight. thank you for being here. still ahead, the explosive details of alleged sexual misconduct by cbs ceo les moonves. will the network stand by him and let him keep his job? howard kurtz will join us on