some of the anti-trump zealots are now claiming that the russians actually swung the election. i think that's an extremely dubious theory, but the mueller investigation's final outcome on what the russians did may settle that. >> bret: what we are going to say? >> the russians were involved with another campaign. hillary clinton secretly bought a dossier that was sourced to promote operative. i'm very curious why mueller hasn't dug into that margaret is not interesting that you can secretly hire a foreign spy who sourced information to promote operatives. if people were really genuinely concerned about russian meddling, and by the way the fact that the spy let it be known that he was looking for dirt meant that he opened himself up to exploitation by russian government operatives. if we genuinely truly cared about these things i think you would see much more interest in the media and by mueller into that. >> bret: i'm not sure that we are not going down that road with the second ig report from horwitz and you may see that in those topics covered. i want to talk about two things. one is the reference to conflicts of interest.