the book, so maybe the president could be right about that. something that the president knows he's got some backup on when pushing this issue, trish, of immigration and his national security, he was standing there with guiseppe conte, the new prime minister of italy that won office based on wanting to reform italy's immigration laws and tighten border security there. angela merkel, who is not exactly a huge fan of the president, has recently said that germany is going to tighten up its borders as well. so perhaps public sentiment is moving in a direction that the president believes if he were to pull the trigger on a government shut down, might be one that he could benefit from politically. that really would be bucking history, trish. >> trish: thanks, john. the president pushing ahead with his shut down threat despine warnings from gop leaders, especially with the mid-terms coming up around the corner. here with me right now, u.s.a. today congressional reporter elisa cohen. good to have you here.