at nato as a "fruitful exchange" and he said the american people are well-served when it comes to negotiations by this president. >> as a lawyer, you have a president that is strong, supporter and advocate of the interests of the american people and the american country. he's a great negotiator. >> shepard, one of the coincidences there of that comment is that italy is not one of the countries that has lived up to the moment to its spending goals, 2% of gdp to military spending. the president said he wants to see it get to 4%. italy right now is 1%. they have a handful of years to get there. >> shepard: he talked, blake, about trade with the european union as a whole. >> he did. we're still asking questions about a comment that he made at the tale end. last week he made a statement