approach he's going to take on the supreme court. one of the things that's been interesting the last few weeks is to see a couple of prominent democratic lawyers, including don verilli, president obama's chief lawyer in the supreme court talk about judge kavanaugh. he said that kavanaugh was a brilliant jurist, exemplary and that he's gracious on and off the bench. that's the kind of endorsement that won't come lightly and will reflect a legitimate view that judge kavanaugh is fair-minded and will be -- do the right thing. >> harris: interesting. it would behoove democrats to sit down with him and get their own take on him action we would expect any lawmaker to do with any candidate. ramon martinez, thank you. >> thank you. >> harris: we're awaiting the president's news conference. we hear he will take questions after going after robert