country, and if they're not careful, there are going to be several more fingers they're given in the midterm elections and also in the 2020 election. mark: do you think there's still enough americans that think this way? >> absolutely there are. you know, folks try to discount the quote, unquote flyover country, but those folks stood up. think about what happened in pennsylvania. for so long, pennsylvania as a statewide politics was based upon whatever happened in pittsburgh, whatever happened in philadelphia. now all of a sudden everything that's in between which is like sec football country, they stood up and said no, we don't want to be dictated by the people in philadelphia and pittsburgh. mark: it was incredible to watch the media when florida came in, when pennsylvania came in, ohio comes in, north carolina comes in. >> wisconsin. mark: and you see wisconsin, you go holy mackerel and they were so dejected, and i think they decided there and then this cannot stand. >> this cannot stand and this