eric: let's go to chicago. andrew, how do we know this claim is true as giuliani claims someone fiddled with the tape. >> i don't think anyone knows whether the tape has been fiddled with. i wouldn't put anything past him. even if these tapes prove to be admissible, they still have major problems. the tapes aren't complete. it's apparently a tape of a tape. and you have big segments of the tape that can't be heard. remember there is still nothing illegal that was discussed in those tapes. i realize why everybody likes it. we have the president of the united states talking about a payoff to a playboy model that never took place. >> it appears mr. trump says