the administration -- message from the administration. do you think it's being received in pyongyang? >> i do. i believe we wouldn't have these developments if it weren't being received. it's about deterrent and credibility. the president has done what he said he would do at every turn. some people don't like those decisions. he's calling out international accountability and he's calling it out with kim jong un. i feel as though this is a president who walked into a room and somebody had kicked over the march l belles and he's -- marbles. he's got a mess to pick up in every corner. he's trying to get trade back on track, trying to get north korea and russia and china to be accountable. this is a long process. i think there is method to the process. mike: robert charles, we thank you for your time and your service. have a great day. julie: a properly innocent cardinal resigning amid allegations of abuse. we'll have reaction from the vatican, next. i don't keep track of regrets.