be intimidated into accepting your fraudulent promise. it w often works and that's exactly why they do it but it only works when the rest of us play alongng with it so let's sp playing along with it. so, can you explain to me why if it's wrong to meet with russians in the hope of getting dirt on your political opponent, it's okay to pay for a national toor get dirt from russians about your political opponents which the dnc in the hillary campaign both did? >> it's very different for a campaign to spend money to do opposition research in a foreign country then for a foreign government like the russians to actually invest in disarming our election security to benefit one candidate, that's the big difference here. there's nothing wrong in paying