talk about it jason riley from the "wall street journal" and the manhattan institute. a.b. stoddard of real clear politics. and mollie hemingway from the federalist. well, jason, 4.1% is a great number but there seems to be a difference of opinion among experts about whether on the one hand this is sustainable or whether it is something of a blip or an aberration because there was a surge of exports, people trying to get in under the wire from the president's tariffs taking effect. where do you come down on this? >> well, no one can argue that it is not a remarkable number. and then you cut taxes, you reduce regulations, and this is what happens when you release the animal spirits of the u.s. economy. it happened under jfk and reagan and george w. bush and it's happening again. so there is no surprise there. i don't know if the 4 point percent growth is sustainable. probably not. but i could see 3% being sustainable for a period of time based on what we have