>> going back to his grandfather. let's talk about twitter, shall we? >> sandra: shadow banning. is this a legitimate concern? the president has been tweeting about it. >> bill: there is no doubt about it. i think the social media organizations are admitting that it is a problem. although -- >> sandra: twitter said they're changing their policy. >> bill: what is it? >> it has to do when you are searching for somebody who is a conservative and or republican and it makes it more difficult to find. >> sandra: if their name auto pop later or not. they say if you're a conservative like jim jordan or ronna mcdaniel their name doesn't populate in the search. >> this is grievance policy. no shortage of conservative -- i'm going to say, if it was the case that they were saying we're blocking some conservative leader i would say