them. i know how to tribe them. this tape is crystal clear when you listen to it. >> giuliani has maintained that no money was ever paid. meanwhile cohen's attorney davis says his client has been repeatedly attacked by giuliani and that the truth is on his client's side. >> my client has been disparaged over and over again by mr. giuliani with misinformation and misstatements. there has been a campaign out of the white house to disparage mr. cohen. why is that? chris, bowers he has got truth on his side. >> and a lawyer for the trump organization, guys, also denied that mr. trump was offering to pay cash saying there was no such transaction. the white house has not commented and frequently does not referring to outside counsel. brian, ainsley, steve? steve: all right, griff, thank you very much. this is the tape that the president lashed out on twitter about i think on saturday where he said it was probably illegal what mr. cohen had done. big question is and i heard